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Trinity County Patriots

Meetings are going to be every Wednesday so tell your friends and neighbors.

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Location: Weaverville Nazarene Church on Oregon Street  Weaverville, CA
Questions:  Herk (530) 515-3463 ruinriver@yahoo.com 

Location: Weaverville
Patriots: 29
Latest Activity: Nov 9

Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism. George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796

 

MEETING SCHEDULES

Everyone is invited to all.

Weaverville Trinity County Patriot meetings are on Wednesdays from 6 to 8 p.m. at Round Table Pizza; 120 Nugget Lane Weaverville.

The Hayfork Trinity County Patriot meetings are on Thursdays from 6 to 7 pm at the Casa de Castellanos restaurant (off Hwy 3).

 

Mailing list:  We have an e-mail mailing list for sharing information.  If you are interested in getting on that list, contact Kay at  trinity.patriot@hotmail.com

 

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Discussion Forum

Trinity County Distric Attorney and Sheriffs department failure to enforce the law

Started by Shelly Hottell. Last reply by Shelly Hottell Nov 9. 2 Replies

I  haven't been on this site for awhile and I know when I was that not everyone was always happy with ,or interested in my opinion,but I did enjoy the feeling of being part of something good that…Continue

You won't believe these US statistics from 2013 (83 of them)

Started by Shelly Hottell Feb 20. 0 Replies

#1 Most people that hear this statistic do not believe that it is actually true, but right now an all-time record 102 million working age Americans do not have a job. That number has risen by about…Continue

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Comment by Diane Richards on January 20, 2014 at 8:42am

HI SHELLEY--

I ACTUALLY PLANTED, WITH THE HELP OF OTHER PATRIOTS, 100 GIANT SEQUOIA IN OUR VALLEY THIS PAST FALL WHICH HAD EXPERIENCED A SEVERE AND VERY DANGEROUS FIRE ALMOST REACHING THE 2ND LARGEST POPULATION IN OUR FOREST. GIANT SEQUOIA CAN GROW 7 FT PER YEAR AND FILL IN BURNED ZONES QUICKLY. THEIR BARK IS NEARLY IMPERMEABLE TO FIRE ONCE MATURE. UNFORTUNATELY THE USFS DID NOT ALLOW US TO PLANT 500 TREES ON THE USFS BURN AREA.  WE WILL BE PLANTING 100 SGs EVERY YEAR. WE CAN EITHER MOAN AND COMPLAIN OR WE CAN ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. WE ARE WORKING WITH THE USFS TO CHANGE THEIR PROTOCOLS IN MANAGING THE FOREST AND FIRES. WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS, ABOUT 60. YOU ARE WELCOME TO JOIN US IN DOING SO.

Comment by Diane Richards on January 17, 2014 at 8:47pm

HI SHELLY,

THANKS FOR THE APOLOGY, SHELLY... BECASUE SOME OF US DO REALLY CARE AND I DO WANT TO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.  I STILL THINK THIS IS PRIVATELY OWNED LAND. FUEL LOADS ARE SO INTENSE RIGHT NOW IN OUR TRINITY FOREST THAT IF THIS IS NOT TREATED AND REMOVED,,, AND REMOVING BIOMASS (DEAD & DOWN) FOR PELLETS IS FAR BETTER THAN CATASTROPHIC FIRE WHERE IT KILLS EVERYTHING IN ITS PATH--- TREES, GRASSES, STERILIZES SOIL, ANIMALS, BIRDS, FISH, PEOPLE, AND CAUSES DEVASTATING AIR POLLUTION TO FAR MORE PEOPLE AND CREATURES THAN JUST THOSE VICTIMS OF THE ACTUAL FIRE AREA... . ACCORDING TO OUR DATA, NO FEDERALLY MANAGED LAND IN TRINITY HAS BEEN HARVESTED EXCEPT FOR BURNS AND SOME ROAD SIDE TREATMENTS (VERY LITTLE) WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THIS IS MOST LIKELY SPI LAND. SPI IS THE LARGEST PRIVATE LAND OWNER IN CALIF. I HAVE GONE ON MANY TRIPS INTO THE FOREST WITH USFS AND HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO LEARN MORE AND MORE ABOUT THE FOREST. IT IS DIFFERENT FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER... THERE ARE SOME TRIPS COMING UP, SO THAT THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE MORE WEIGHT IN WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN OUR FOREST SYSTEM... WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME ALONG??? IT WOULD ENABLE YOU TO ACTUALLY HAVE A VOICE AT LEAST WITHIN THE FEDERALLY MANAGED LANDS... SPI PLANTATIONS COME UNDER CALIF REGULATIONS. TIMBER IS A RENEWABLE RESOURCE. IF THEY ARE NOT CLEAR CUTTING HUGE AREAS, AND ARE INSTEAD DOING THIS CHECKBOARD METHOD... EXACTLY HOW AND WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS EXTREME LOGGING DAMAGE? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE DAMAGE IS? PS I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THE LASSEN FOREST AND OTHERS YOU POSTED....

Comment by Diane Richards on December 23, 2013 at 10:31pm

Hi Shelly,

I did answer you but it seems the post never was posted. Perhaps Mr. Galt did not allow my post through? moderated? First of all, my best guess is that this is privately owned forest lands, owned by Sierra Pacific Industries (SPI), the largest landowner in Northern California. They use this checkerboard pattern to rotate cuts. This allows animals to easily relocate close by and it also protects the flora and fauna from intense weather. What is worse than this is what you cannot see. It is 10 to 20 times more fuel loads (dead and down wood and brush) on the ground that some day will cause a catastrophic fire no one will be able to stop which happened in the 1900s. Many many people died from smoke inhalation, not to count the animals that died because it was so massive you could not run from it. All this dead and down wood must be removed and hopefully used for a good purpose like wood pellets instead of just burning in the forest killing as it goes, and adding huge amounts of pollution for all of Northern California. The article you posted is a project for and around the San Francisc Bay area. They intend to take out Eucalyptus and Acacia trees which are non-native, and extremely flammable. There are probably 100 trees per acre and so that means approximately 700 acres will be cut. That is not a huge area but still, many people in the Bay area lament this loss and I think they should leave small groves not only for the aesthetics but for the wildlife that have made these mini forest areas their home. Sort of like what SPI does. Most of these small groves are side by side with apartment buildings, developments etc which endanger the residents and the firefighters that will have to try to save them, many may lose their lives. There must be a balance struck between stewardship of the environment and public safety. My main concern with this article is the herbicide soaked wood chips! Nothing will grow--- that is their intent. Imagine how poisonous that chemical is! Imagine what it will do as it soaks through to the groundwater, and into water basins... what it will do to amphibians, reptiles, fish and birds... So--- you are right to be concerned but all things are not what they appear. Would you like to go for a tour to see the forest in person rather than Google view? Call me! 650-296-2169 Diane

Comment by K Graves on December 23, 2013 at 9:51pm

Hi,

Sorry,  I am really busy but I am interested in this.  As far as I know the USFS is not cutting and I don't have time to figure out if these shapes are on public or private.  Do you know? 

I looked at your first posting but I could not view the photo.

Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

Comment by Shelly Hottell on December 23, 2013 at 9:31pm

 I MISSED A FEW WORDS HERE AND THERE DUE TO HOW ANGRY I FEEL,PLEASE FORGIVE THE TYPOS

Comment by Shelly Hottell on December 23, 2013 at 9:29pm

>DOSENT ANY FRICKING CARE,ARE WE REALLY THIS STUPID ,TO LET THESE BASTARDS THAT THINK THEY ARE IN CHARGE OF OUR COUNTRY DO THIS TO AMERICA,OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE .IF WE SNAP OUT OF WHATEVER KIND OF STUPOR WE ALL SEEM TO BE IN OUR COUNTRY IS GOING TO BE BARREN ,NO ANIMALS,NO HUMANS...OK SO WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SAY ..THISD IS NOT ACCEPTABLE..I AM PISSED AND ASHAMED AND DISGUSTED IN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ,ALL EVERYONE SAYS TO EVERYTHING IS OH ITS PROBABLY NOT THAT BAD,THEY PROBABLY HAVE A REASON FOR IT ,WHEN DID WE STOPPED  GETTING ASKED IF IT WAS OK WHEN DID THEY DECIDE THEY COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT ,WHY ARE WE LETTING THEM ITS NOT THERE RIGHT TO DESTROY OUR COUNTRY THAT IS TERRORISM..</p>

Comment by Shelly Hottell on December 23, 2013 at 9:28pm

Don’t Destroy California’s Forests

arget: Regional Administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Region IX, Nancy L. Ward

Goal: Stop proposed plan to reduced wildfire risks by cutting down over 70,000 trees in Northern California

  eliminating forests altogether. The project, aimed at San Francisco Bay area forests, calls for the removal of tens of thousands of non-native trees and replacing these trees with herbicide-soaked woodchips.

FEMA has stated that cutting down expansive areas of forest would aid in “sediment and invasive weed control,” and help to reduce wildfires by eliminating fuel. Stumps of removed trees would be sprayed with herbicides to “prevent re-sprouting.” Large areas that were once forests would be covered in a blanket of nearly 24 inches of woodchips.

Although the project is aimed mainly at invasive, highly flammable tree species such as Eucalyptus and Acacia, it has raised many questions by fire prevention experts. Some argue that by replacing trees with woodchips, the project will merely exchange one wildfire fuel source for another. In addition, eliminating tens of thousands of trees will remove a natural windbreak “that acts as a barrier to the wind driven fires that are typical in California.” One retired Oakland-area firefighter, David Maloney claims that the plan is nothing more than “a land transformation plan, which is masquerading as a fire hazard reduction plan.”

FEMA’s plan to control wildfires in California will result in the loss of nearly 100,000 trees. Enormous areas of once-forested land will be replaced with toxic, highly flammable woodchips, and the widespread removal of trees will result in the “release of hundreds of thousands of tons of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.”

Demand that FEMA stop this harmful and destructive project before it takes effect, and help save tens of thousands of Californian trees.

 

PETITION LETTER:

Dear Regional Administrator Nancy L. Ward,

Recently, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) has proposed a project that would result in the clear-cutting of tens of thousands of trees in Northern California. FEMA asserts that this plan aims to help reduce the number of wildfires, as well as the negative impacts of wildfires in the area. However, the project would simply replace large expanses of forest with equally flammable woodchips. In addition, removing trees could potentially cause an increase in fire severity, as it would remove shade, forest floor moisture and the natural windbreak that trees provide.

In many cases, wildfires are perpetuated by radiant heat from nearby buildings, not the trees themselves. Furthermore, forests can often help to reduce the damage done to human development by containing wildfires. Removing tens of thousands of trees from Northern Californian forests would ultimately do very little to prevent wildfires. In fact, FEMA’s proposed project could potentially lead to more wildfires, as well as the utter destruction of both invasive and native plant growth.

I strongly urge you to stop FEMA’s proposed plan to eradicate large areas of forestland in California, and instead work to protect these areas.<p

Comment by K Graves on June 12, 2012 at 10:14am

If they didn’t want more code enforcement, higher fines, shorter “cure” times, etc…they sure voted in the wrong people.

Cooperation means nothing and gets you nothing.  The Supervisors should have demanded “Coordination”.   The old Sups don’t get this basic concept and the new Sups won’t get it to the tenth power.  People had better start showing up to the BOS meeting and Planning Dept. meetings on a regular basis, or we are going to be kissed without a handshake.

Comment by Shelly Hottell on June 12, 2012 at 8:24am

Code enforcement depredation
From Paul Wills Hyampom
Code enforcement is no more than a H*** sapien depredation permit. It was intended to protect our environment and our citizens from harm, yet we all know the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

It is shameful to think what was going to be such a good solution to all this pot growing abuse would be cured by snitches, snoops, Gestapo tactics and big fines. Bigger fines are not the answer and shame on people who think so.

The aggressive approach taken by Weaverville authorities is obviously flawed and counterproductive to what it was intended to do.

There is a reason we live in Trinity County and a reason we live in Hyampom; at least my neighbor reminds me of that fact when the phones don't work for a week straight. Here we live and let live. We try to help our neighbors and friends in whatever capacity we are able to. We don't snitch on each other or tattle. Many of these traits we learned in kindergarten but, possibly forgot some of them due to old-timers disease or some other affliction.

From a distance I can see what this code enforcement business is doing. First it generates dollars and a parasite type of job, feeding off others’ troubles. I'm sure it must be doing some good somewhere as the county officials put all this in place for our own good and told us how wonderful it will be.

On the other hand it is causing stress, financial duress and hardship, suspicion and distrust of county officials and county government. Even the county employee working on road signs in this area is looked at with great suspicion; we wonder if he is a subsidized predator or does he belong to a sleeper cell.

All of this mistrust and distrust is giving great support to Fred May and his billboard policy. Many people here are voting for Fred May’s policy, even though it is so much at once, simply to send a message that they are dissatisfied with many things happening from the people with direct deposit paychecks in county government in the Weaver Village.

Bullying and citizen abuse from local government, or anyone, is something we don't need. Where are the humanitarians in our county government?

Comment by Shelly Hottell on June 12, 2012 at 8:08am

Counties request cooperating status on owl deliberations

http://www.trinityjournal.com/news/environment/article_e6ebc26e-aa1...

 

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