Monuments and Land Use Issues


Monuments and Land Use Issues

A Discussion of National Monuments (proposed & existing) National Forest and BLM Land Use

Patriots: 19
Latest Activity: Jan 4, 2012

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The Federal land grabs must be stopped!

Started by mikeL May 17, 2011. 0 Replies

Here is a link to 'Save the Trails'. They have letter writing campaigns going to support legislation to unlock the gates being put up on our public lands. Please check them out. …Continue

Sheriff refuses to enforce federal regulations

Started by Bonfire. Last reply by hoppy Mar 27, 2011. 3 Replies

USFS Travel Management Plan - Public Info Meeting, Hosted by Almanor Tea Party …Continue

Virginia moves to limit eminent domain

Started by Bonfire Mar 1, 2011. 0 Replies

EDITORIAL: Stopping the government land grabVirginia moves to limit eminent domainThe…Continue

Legislation Update re Monuments

Started by Michael O Adams. Last reply by Bonfire Feb 24, 2011. 1 Reply

From emails 2-18-11 Mr. Adams, I am Derek Harley, Congressman Wally Herger’s chief of staff.  Erin Ryan forwarded us a message that you sent to her inquiring about the status of a bill Mr. Herger…Continue

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Comment by Wright Winger on March 27, 2011 at 2:10pm

Hi Hoppy... all 2,500 patriots who are signed up on this site can view your post. They don't have to be invited. 

You did it just fine and thank you for the post.

Comment by hoppy on March 27, 2011 at 1:41pm

I'm still new to this. If I post a comment does every one in this group get it, or do I have to invite everyone ?  we'll see  Check out


also The denver post_  County lands in feud with forest service

We are finally getting more national coverage

also The grand junction sentinel  protesting the forest service road plan

  Happy Hoppy

Comment by Michael O Adams on March 9, 2011 at 4:13pm

Examiner Editorial: Upton, Hastings athwart Obama agenda yelling 'Stop!'

House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) delivers opening remarks during a hearing on Capitol Hill March 1, 2011 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton (R-MI) delivers opening remarks during a hearing on Capitol Hill March 1, 2011 in Washington, DC. (Photo by Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images)
It's hard to find two more interesting or important congressional panels these days than the House Energy and Commerce Committee and the House Natural Resources Committee, chaired, respectively, by Rep. Fred Upton of Michigan and Rep. Doc Hastings of Washington. Upton and Hastings are at the center of the House Republican majority's efforts to stop two major items on President Obama's agenda: Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Lisa Jackson's attempt to implement by bureaucratic fiat a regulatory version of the cap-and-trade program that was rejected by Congress, and Interior Secretary Ken Salazar's effort to create out of whole bureaucratic cloth a destructive new public lands designation.

Upton and Rep. Ed Whitfield, the Kentucky Republican who heads the Upton panel's subcommittee on energy and power, are methodically moving -- with important assistance from Minnesota Democrat Collin Peterson -- the Energy Tax Prevention Act to block Jackson from implementing the proposed greenhouse gas regulations that would make virtually all economic activity subject to her agency's authority. Upton argues that energy costs will increase exponentially if Jackson isn't stopped: "The very last thing the federal government should do is make matters worse by intentionally driving up the cost of energy. Yet that is exactly what's in store if the EPA moves forward with its plans to regulate and penalize carbon emissions under the Clean Air Act," said Upton. "The EPA is pursuing a dramatic shift in our nation's energy and environmental policy that would send shock waves through our economy. Setting the course of our energy policy is the job of Congress, not a single federal agency acting without authority," Whitfield adds.

Meanwhile, Hastings is moving with dispatch to stop Salazar's Secretarial Order 3310 creating a new "wild lands" category in the Bureau of Land Management that would stop virtually all energy exploration and development on hundreds of millions of acres of federally owned lands, mostly in the Western states. Federal law has long stipulated that public lands be available for "multiple uses" in order to ensure economic and other benefits to the nation. During a Natural Resources Committee hearing last week, Hastings closely questioned BLM Director Bob Abbey on whether the Interior Department has lawful authority to create the new designation. Abbey's response? "I'm not sure it exists statutorily." Asked a second time what statutory authority would allow the designation, Abbey said, "I am not aware of one." Hastings is pushing legislation to deny funds for implementing 3310. Abbey is to be commended for answering candidly. We hope he did not put his job in jeopardy by telling the truth.

Comment by Michael O Adams on February 7, 2011 at 12:43pm


Press Release FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Danielle Lindler, professional forester and executive director for KARE was awarded the prestigious Conservationist of the Year Award from the California Forestry Association this past week in Sacramento for her outstanding efforts to educate California’s elected officials and for developing and mobilizing broad based coalitions to support sustainable management of California’s private and public lands. She was also was awarded two Certificates of Congressional Recognition from Congressmen Herger and Congressmen McClintock for her contributions to forestry education. KARE is a grassroots, non-profit 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to the responsible, multiple uses of our natural resources on public lands; protection of private property rights; and the economic vitality of our communities. KARE’s purpose is to promote the efficient and responsible management and utilization of forests and forestland for the production of forest products and to inform and educate the general public regarding the benefits to be derived through proper management of forest resources.


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Danielle, a resident of Weed, stated, "I was speechless when I received the award and was truly honored for being recognized for my accomplishments by giants in the field of forestry. It was humbling to receive such a great honor. I thank KARE for the support and for having me lead the charge to fulfill their mission of educating our State officials on the wonderful role forestry plays in making our forests healthy."


Congradulations my friend

Klamath Alliance for Resources & Environment

Comment by Bonfire on December 20, 2010 at 2:28pm

California Code-Section 11120. Quote,” The people of this state do not yield their Sovereignty to the agencies which serve them,” unquote.

Kissinger: “If you control the food, you control a nation. If you control the energy, you control a region. If you control the money, you control the world.”

Comment by Bonfire on December 19, 2010 at 2:23pm

U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service are playing God with wildlife and nature trying to engineer their development. I heard them with my own ears at the owls trial in 2007. We found proof that different owl parliaments of Barred and Spotted mated and produced hybrids continuing their species in an evolution process. One  complaint was the Barred was a bit larger. The clowns said the Barred were indigenous by flying into the territory where the Spotted were thriving. Excuse me but flighted birds do not have borders. See the link in RS.

Comment by Bonfire on December 19, 2010 at 2:19pm

Barred Owls!

about 21 inches long


Northern Spotted Owl

about 18 inches long

Comment by Michael O Adams on December 19, 2010 at 1:25pm

Who is it that is going to shoot Barred Owls?

A Barred owl and a Spotted owl are the same species! The markings are different but same species. Just like a black man and a white man.

Comment by Bonfire on December 19, 2010 at 12:39pm


WoW! I will not be buying that little cabin on forest service land that is for sure. The Forest Service has long been a joke. Ditto for their arm of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Besides inability for natural clearcutting like the Indians using common sense, they have this crazy thing going on with the Barred owl that has been mating with the Spotted Owl (I attended one of their meetings begging them to please not kill off the Barred owls) but they decided to, even though it was proven that hybrids were produced by these new owl parliaments, because they can. Meanwhile, these clowns have no doubt began their sport of shooting the beautiful owls more for the politics of justifying unnatural timber clearcutters, who are in politicians pockets, that destroyed the Spotted owls habitats. It is all politics and deep pockets.


Comment by Wright Winger on December 19, 2010 at 11:11am

Lots of great comments/info from everyone posting. I witnessed the very thing Ron is talking about. I was doing contracted work for the Forest Service during the raging fires in 2008. I covered many counties with hundreds of thousands of acres involved.

The lack of management for untold years resulted in a 'choked' forest of healthy, dead, and dying trees sometimes so thick it was hard to walk through. When fire hit areas like that it would burn deep into the soil it got so hot. I would travel through the towns once supported by logging and see the devastation the towns suffered economically... but a 15-30 minute drive in any direction and there were trees everywhere... It was depressing and I was more than a little annoyed.

Why is it the Native Americans understood forest management *(with no technical advantages), yet Federal 'scientist' and state 'biologist' with all their degrees couldn't manage a lemonade stand without screwing it up.

Why are we not utilizing a resource that would create more affordable housing, jobs, improves the tax base, is totally renewable, and provides for a more healthy ecosystem? Is is rational to be at least a little conspiratorial when asking those questions and pondering the possible answers?


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