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Dear fellow Willows Tea Party Members.
I don't know how you feel about the occupy movement, but since september I have been looking at it, wondering what they were really all about. To me, I first saw a bunch of hippies protesting like I saw in the 60's. In other words I wasn't sure at all whether I liked the idea. As you all heard, I asked Doug La Malfa about the occupy movement when He came to our meeting recently. He said they would all be gone by spring, remember? This raised questions in my mind. So, I drove to Oakland, found the leaders tent, and asked some questions as a Tea Party Member. First off, what was the big idea in the first place? why did they think they had any right to disrupt society this way. The answers I got were revealing. The bulk of the people protesting were bugged about similar things that really bug us Tea Party Members.
Too much federal government, they didn't like the UN at all..
Why has no one gone to jail for what was recently done to our economy by a few people.
Erosion of our civil rights as in the patroit act. (remember when I asked Doug La Malfa how long we had to live under the patriot act)
After talking to a few people, I came home thinking they just might be a younger version of ourselves, just not as organized. What do you think?
They may be a younger version of ourselves but they are infiltrated with some of our own "hippie radicals from the 60's" that never grew up and now that the Unions have joined them that adds another element to the mix. Most do not understand that it is not just the corporations which are corrupted but the government as well. They seem to think that the government can "fix" this problem and nothing could be further from the truth. It is the government in collusion with the corporations that are robbing us of our liberties. This plan that the Occupiers are using is put forth in Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for Radicals". It is a plan to overwhelm the system and then take it over. Or google the Coward-Piven Strategy--Frances Piven was one of the early agitators in New York. Not your sweet old gramma type.
Yeah Sally, I read the book too. I didn't come away threatened. I viewed the book as an excercise in Americana.
I'm saying that just because they are off base in some of their thinking, they should not be dismissed out of hand.
These folks DO realize "It is the government in collusion with the corporations that are robbing us of our liberties."
They DO realize that the fed is bad for our economy, they get it from the ones I talked to.
Sally, I invite you to go find some occupiers and ask them yourselves. Thats what I did. I listened to the pundits, then I tried to find out for myself after asking questions.
They are dissenting as gaurenteed by our constitution. But what if they were us? Would we protest like hell if we thought the government was going to try to take away social security? Oh yeah! we did , didn't we? We got organized, we got people we wanted in the halls of congress and started changing things . Sally, our problems are way more serious than unions. Our country is at risk, UN treaties, agenda 21 The federal reserve, fema. These are a few of the clear and present dangers to our sovriegnity as a nation. The fact that there are now millions of people in our country protesting validates our political system I suggest that we should be going to the occupy sites and get these kids educated about whats really at stake.
Watched your video. The guy calls the occupiers bums pooping in the streets. Again, go look for yourself.
This is not treason, this is legal dissent.
These folks are NOT calling for an end to our government.
don't know what else to tell you sally.
Keith, thank you for sharing your experiences and your insights. I agree with your conclusions and have posted my assessments previously.
"If the Occupy Wall Street movement and the Tea Party movement joined together to protest the abuses of the Federal Reserve and the abuses of Wall Street they would be a very powerful force. But instead, the Occupy Wall Street movement considers the Tea Party movement to be the enemy."
This cuts both ways. Too many Tea Party members think that the Occupy movement is their enemy.
This dysfunctional reciprocity will continue as long as there are too many people in the extremist wings of both the Occupy Movement and the Tea Party Movement who view each other as the enemy.
The power elites continue to laugh at both groups and rejoice in their success in getting their dupes to buy into their psychological warfare divide and conquer strategy and tactics.
"The OWS movement, the TeaParty movement and the all the rest of us share a common enemy. That enemy is organized and powerful, and it has been playing us against each other for a reason."
This state of affairs needs to change. It's up to the non extremist members of both groups to encourage their fellow members to find common ground and unite to defeat their common enemy.
Find Common Ground
Added by Steve's Worldview on November 16, 2011 at 11:37pm